LETS BEGIN DEBATING!

Let’s all make the discussions begin! We should propose ideas for a better future. Since USA wants the best for everyone, we are convinced that without Hugo Chavez in power, many countries will benefit, including Venezuela.
Hugo Chavez won election again, but he received 2/3 of the votes, instead of receiving all votes. Because of that, Chavez is proposing a new change in the constitution, in which he would change the Supreme Courts’ jurors.
Until where does Chavez wants to go? What will he propose next? We should all be aware of. His communists’ ideas may lead to something worse!

I completely agree with what my partner stated and would like to emphasize that since Chavez took power in 1999 about 118,541 people died. The homicide rate in Caracas is the highest (200 for every 100,000 habitants) compared to the largest cities in the America's, the number is actually three times bigger than the one of his first year in power. Also while several countries in Latin America are having economic boosts, Venezuela continues to shrink and suffer with the recession. That's why in the elections that occured this Saturday the opposition was able to win 59 legislature seats from 159, even though the Socialist Party is still majority they weren't fully satisfied with the results. Chavez seeking more control wishes to change the constitution again to guarantee his next mandate in 2012 and his authority. The USA strongly believes he should be stopped and taken out of power, because he is doing nothing more than weakining Venezuela.

United States Delegate,
Marina Oliveira

How come delegates something like this is being proposed? Let's bring facts up and you will see that Chavez only helped the growth of Venezuela. Lets first look at the economy, the GDP before Chavez was less than 11billion bolivares and now its over 14billion bolivares. We can also see that porverty and inequality has decreased. Health and education have improved. So there is nothing the delegates of US can say about our president, because the facts show Venezuela is growing and improving. What Hugo Chavez is doing is not alone, if the constitution is changed people voted for it, he is just trying to make the best for Venezuela. The delegate totally agrees with the delegate of China proving with facts what the delegate have said of the improve in Venezuela

Wake up, delegates of Venezuela and China!!! If you have been watching the news lately, Hugo Chavez "eternal reign" is beginning to experience a downfall. With a 52% of the votes, the opposition to the current government has won the polls to the elections. However, Chavez's "people" still hold a majority of seats in the parliament, with a total of 90 seats, among the 165, while the opposition only posesses 60 seats. Though the government still acquires an abundace of power, it is no longer totalitarian. In order for a law to be approved, Chavez will now need the consent of its opposition, even if the PSUV still holds a majority of seats within the parliament. Also, since the parliament will only be able to exert their power in January, that leaves plenty of time for Hugo Chavez to change constitutional laws as a benefit to his rule, once again corrupting the country's freedom.

First of all, delegate of the USA (Roberta) Chavez is not at all communist! He may not be democratic, but only a fool would call Chavez a communist. If you take in consideration Marx’s and Engel’s' ideals, the delegate will find out that Chavez is not even socialist, describe by Marx as the "dictatorship" of the workers.

Second, Security Council delegate of the US, there is no need to be aggressive or offend any nations. By the way, China woke-up along time ago. In fact, look at where China stands economically, politically and socially in comparison with the world.

Anyways, the United Nations was created and is saving lives nowadays because its built with respect. If we are going to judge Venezuela's economy, first look at what happened with the US' in 2008. And though the US criticizes the Venezuelan nation it still buying more than 1/3 of the Venezuelan petroleum. (US was just used as an example, no means to offend; only stating facts). The delegate of China would like to ask all the delegates of the United State of America to respect communism, socialism, and all the others forms of government. There is nothing wrong or “utopic” in communism. If Chavez is not pleasing the population, let the population speak and take action, but there is no reason for a multilateral intervention in a country that is respecting its citizens and international laws. Also take in consideration that there are several tensions occurring in the northwest of the Latin America, the measures token by some nation towards in Venezuelan nation, specifically, have gone way over the line. It's never easy to govern a country in pre-war state. We have to be able to respect differences and still find noble solutions to avoid war, because that's exactly what is going to happen in Latin America is we don't come to a consensus.

Delegate of China, can’t you see you’ve just contradicted yourself? Don’t say my SC’s partner is being offensive and aggressive, when you’re the one calling me a fool, and saying that USA likes to point fingers out without even thinking! Since the delegate lacks the understanding, United States is always aware of what it is talking about, and just states clearly what it is known by everyone.

You should be aware that Chavez has stated many times he practices Trotskyism, meaning that he is one of the radicals who support Trotsky's theory that socialism must be established throughout the world by continuing revolution, or supporting Marxism. Who was Trotsky? Well, he was a Russian revolutionary and Communist philosopher who helped Lenin built up the army and persuades the population to practice communism. If Chavez practice Trotsky’s theory, then, probably he will influence some other country to become communist, or he will lead Venezuela to communist paths, if that’s not what’s he is doing already. Only a fool will blind himself and neglect the clear influence Chavez receives from the defenders of communism. I’m sorry to disappoint you, but I’m not deceived in this situation.

How can the delegate say that there’s nothing wrong in communism, and that “If Chavez is not pleasing the population, let the population speak and take action, but there is no reason for a multilateral intervention in a country that is respecting its citizens and international laws?” Well delegate, if the population had just a little bit of freedom of speech in that country… Hugo Chavez shutdown TV channels, press freedom, made political discriminations, and as well, threats to democracy- many human rights violation.

Delegates, our major goal here is to find a solution for future worries Venezuela might bring. It is very clear to everyone that Hugo Chavez is a major threat and could influence many other countries in the world. Do we want another “Russian Revolution?” USA doesn’t desire the possibility of a war, that’s why we are here proposing a resolution to democratize Venezuela, without Hugo Chavez and his socialists ideas in power.

United States_Roberta wrote:

Delegate of China, can’t you see you’ve just contradicted yourself? Don’t say my SC’s partner is being offensive and aggressive, when you’re the one calling me a fool, and saying that USA likes to point fingers out without even thinking! Since the delegate lacks the understanding, United States is always aware of what it is talking about, and just states clearly what it is known by everyone.

You should be aware that Chavez has stated many times he practices Trotskyism, meaning that he is one of the radicals who support Trotsky's theory that socialism must be established throughout the world by continuing revolution, or supporting Marxism. Who was Trotsky? Well, he was a Russian revolutionary and Communist philosopher who helped Lenin built up the army and persuades the population to practice communism. If Chavez practice Trotsky’s theory, then, probably he will influence some other country to become communist, or he will lead Venezuela to communist paths, if that’s not what’s he is doing already. Only a fool will blind himself and neglect the clear influence Chavez receives from the defenders of communism. I’m sorry to disappoint you, but I’m not deceived in this situation.

How can the delegate say that there’s nothing wrong in communism, and that “If Chavez is not pleasing the population, let the population speak and take action, but there is no reason for a multilateral intervention in a country that is respecting its citizens and international laws?” Well delegate, if the population had just a little bit of freedom of speech in that country… Hugo Chavez shutdown TV channels, press freedom, made political discriminations, and as well, threats to democracy- many human rights violation.

Delegates, our major goal here is to find a solution for future worries Venezuela might bring. It is very clear to everyone that Hugo Chavez is a major threat and could influence many other countries in the world. Do we want another “Russian Revolution?” USA doesn’t desire the possibility of a war, that’s why we are here proposing a resolution to democratize Venezuela, without Hugo Chavez and his socialists ideas in power.

Dear delegate,

How can the delegate state that the United States aren't looking for a possibility of war, if their ideas already
create an idea that might stir up conflict in Venezuela? Having Chavez removed from power would make hundreds
of thousands of people in Venezuela rebel, since many are his followers. Chaos would rise in Venezuela, and the
United States would be the one to blame. Also, dear delegate, I would like to state that there have been allegations
that the United States was involved in the coup d'etat of 2002, when Chavez was illegally held by military for
a total of 47 hours. There have been reports that they two U.S. miltary officers were present in such time.
Delegate, maybe the United States actually is looking for a possibility of a war or a conflict so they can achieve
what they want. Chavez is a righteous ruler and is working hard for his country, and delegate, by stating that
you want to remove Chavez and his socialists ideas in power, you are discriminating socialism. Like every form
of government, socialism has it's flaws, just like capitalism, so don't try to convert other countries
to your own system just because you think it is better, since different systems work in a certain way for
different kinds of countries.

With heart,
The Delegate of China

Delegate of China (Val), it is better to base and judge China by its growing overpopulation rate rather than its "fair" politics, for then it would be much more reasonable and appropriate. Apparently China hasn't woken up because yes, communism is respected, though it is a far distant myth and should be judged when a nation presents effective communist actions. The delegate believed Val, of all people, would understand that Marx agrees that socialists "rejects all political action and, specially, every revolutionary action." It is clear that those are not the intentions of the presidents that constantly changes constitutional laws to remain in power. The PSUV (Chavez's gov.) Considers itself socialist, as its name states - just for the record. A nations interests interfere in its diplomatic ties with anther, being it either for the best or for the worst; that's why there are still commercial relations with Venezuela. However, it does not mean one agree with other's actions. By any means do I mean to be aggressive, only plan to open all of your minds to issues that imply solutions to encourage world peace!

If Venezuela were your home instead of Kazakhstan you would...

consume 80.59% more oil
have a 73.02% greater chance of being unemployed
be 6 times more likely to have HIV/AIDS
experience 42.36% more of a class divide
spend 53.41% more money on health care
have 21.79% more babies

If Hugo Chavez was doing such a good of a job then the stats should be better than those
just saying....
Kazakhstan is also a very rich oil and gas producing country but does it inflict pain upon its citizens? does it limit their freedom of speech? is it a dictatorship? does it have border disputes with its friendly neighbors?
NO
why? because it does not have Chavez as its president nor the wild and surreal idealism he tries to sell his people. so no. NO CHAVEZ.

oh and by the way, china: no problems here ey? we still friends.... yeah

thank you,
Kazakhstan

Delegate of the US from the American causes, first, there was nothing wrong with the Russian Revolution. Lenin did the best he could for the Soviet Society at the time, and so would Trotsky if Stalin didn't come to power and corrupt the true Marxists ideals. And I believe we all agree on that.

Delegate of the US from the Security Council, I undetand your word, But be aware that Chavez government is not socialist, though he is part of the Venezuelan Socialist Party. Its characteristics doesn’t follow PERFECTLY Karl Marx’s, the one who introduces the communist and socialist ideals. If we were to describe Chavez political party with the terms known to society, yes, we would describe it as socialist. But the matter here is not to discuss whether or not if Chavez government is socialist, communist, democratic, absolutist or whatever. We are here to insure the safety of the Venezuelan people, who in China’s opinion is in good hands.

Our War on Drugs, doesn’t only affect our country but it also affects the U.S.A being that most of the drugs are being smuggled into the US but this drug problem affects most of South America too, since 90% of the drugs that Mexico has comes from down there.

Delegate Mario , all Latin American countries in average growed 7% last year. Venezuela , in the other hand, is in a deep recession, and saw it's economy shrink by -3%.

Japan is against any type of dictatorship, specially the ones that make peoples lives worse.

At first everyone thought that Arellano was the brains behind the War on Drugs, and he controlled more than one third of the trading in cocaine. 'Arellano which has moved billions of dollars worth of Mexican and Colombian drugs into the United States while committing some of the most vicious murders ever seen in the drug underworld (Kevin Sullivan and Mary Jordan). Arellano has been extremely hard to capture due to millions of dollars he spent for protection from judges, police officers, and generals.
Arellano has finally been capture, but sadly the smuggling of drugs into the US hasn’t slowed down. Arellano states while in prison about the war on drugs: "They haven't won. I'm here, and nothing has changed." he goes on to blame the problem on the US by saying "It would stop being a business if the United States didn't want drugs".
If any delegate wants more information on this, http://www.cocaine.org/crime/felix.html is a great website.

here´s a brief explanation of what the war on drugs is; "t's a war without a clear enemy. Anything waged against a shapeless, intangible noun can never truly be won — President Clinton's drug czar Gen. Barry McCaffrey said as much in 1996. And yet, within the past 40 years, the U.S. government has spent over $2.5 trillion dollars fighting the War on Drugs. Despite the ad campaigns, increased incarceration rates and a crackdown on smuggling, the number of illicit drug users in America has risen over the years and now sits at 19.9 million Americans. And a large portion of their supply makes its way into the country through Mexico"

If you would like to read more: http://www.time.com/time/world/article/0,8599,1887488,00.html#ixzz110oC28fT

The traffic of drugs is now, one of the most powerfull business in the world, affecting not just Mexico, but the entire world. We really need to work on this issue, all countries should be supporting us so, this won't spread worldwide.

The delegate Diego posted a good point, right now this issue is mainly considering Mexico, US and most of South America, but if we don’t stop this addictive and dangerous drug problem it could spread worldwide, making it a lot harder to resolve. Therefore there is no reason why any of you other delegates should be against winning the war on drugs problem that Mexico and US are facing.

Dear delegates,
After analyzing all the facts and opinios given I think that although Hugo Chavez has many communist ideas and that about 118,541 people have died since 1999, Hugo Chaves has positivly grown the GDP of Venezuela for billions bolivares. Also Hugo Chavez has decreased poverty & inequality and improved health & education. The country is having economic boosts but it still continues to shrink and siffer.
Thanks,
Bruna

the deligation of Mexico would like the support and immediate coaporasion of the U.N's department of peacekeeping operations to help on the violence caused by the war on drugs in mexico.

Mexico has already deployed over 10,000 military troops and special police forces in Ciudad Juarez, but the violence of murder, kidnapping and extorsion continues at large. 1.4 million people have been shocked by the 2,000 in just this city; earning it one of the highest murder rates in the world.

the mexican war on drugs seen is becoming a grim and hostile situation. of what was once a beautiful, tropical, vacation spot; has been turned into a place where tortured bodies are dumped onto the streets, 6,000 busnisses have already been shut down and moved, locals fear for their lives just walking down the street. as it is clear, mexico need help dealing with this, by getting support of U.N's peace corp which has over 110,000 operatives dispersed over 4 continents, with the U.S. paying for one fourth of the budget. mexico desperatly need this support, for we have not the capasity to deel with the problem that has built up because of the U.S and latin america drug relations.

The delegate of mexico is aware that mexico was once a beautiful, tropical, vacation spot; has been turned into a place where tortured bodies are dumped onto the streets, now our latest news involve how a gunmen have abducted a busload of tourists in Acapulco, where 22 tourists were captured.

Venezuela_Mario wrote:

The delegate totally agrees with the delegate of China proving with facts what the delegate have said of the improve in Venezuela

ChinaSC_Vanessa wrote:

But the matter here is not to discuss whether or not if Chavez government is socialist, communist, democratic, absolutist or whatever. We are here to insure the safety of the Venezuelan people, who in China’s opinion is in good hands.

Delegate of China and of Venezuela,
You both probably forgot to read my last post. How can China say it wishes to insure the safety of the Venezuelan people while supporting Chavez? Since he took power Caracas has the highest homicide rate (200 for every 100,000 habitants) compared to the largest cities in the America's and it is actually 3 times bigger than when Chavez first took power. About 118,521 people have died during his rule and even though all this violence is happening the government is only worried about its image, ordering the photographs that displayed violence to be removed using a court order and the stop of publicly releasing detailed homicide statics. Delegate of Venezuela, how can you state that Chavez is improving Venezuela when last year while Latin American countries grew about 7%, its economy shrank about 3%? The Venezuelan people are starting to notice what is happening in their country and what is best for them, that is why the opposition won in the last elections by 52% percent.
United States Delegate,
Marina Oliveira

No delegate of the US, China, indeed, read the post, but whether than taing it as valid information it took it as a comical relief. The US is really going to judge a government by its suicidal rate? As an international community the suicidal rates grow every year, not in Venezuela specifically. In fact, the US' suicidal rate is bigger than Venezuela's. And even if the US were to judge a government by suicidal rate, as in 2009, South Korea hold one of the the biggest suicidal rate, if not the biggest, and isn't South Korea US' biggest ally in Asia? High suicidal rates are also very common in Europe, is the US suggesting we all purpose a resolution to remove all current European government representatives'? [Source: http://www.who.int/mental_health/prevention/suicide_rates/en/index.html]

All jokes aside, suicidal rate are irrelevant.

As in the 3% shrank in the Venezuelan economy, when China change from 'nationalist' to 'communist' it economic shark more than 3%. In fact, Mao Zedong was able to fail in every program he opted for. Through time, China grew stronger and adptaded its Marxists ideals in the modern world. As in for today, China grows more than any other country in the world. What the delegate is trying to say, that a huge changed happened in the Venezuelan Constitution and it will take a while to adapt. But don't worry too much about Venezuelan economy, China has just lended 20 billion dollars to the Venezuelan government to help secure the economy. In fact, try worrying more about the the US economy who is, like the Venezuelan, shrinking.
And also be careful not to interfere too much on what happen in Latin American, speacially in Venezuela. US buys 965,000 barrels per day from Venezuela, and Chavez have threatened to halt US oil exports.