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PostSubject: Re: LETS BEGIN DEBATING!   Wed Oct 27, 2010 5:21 pm

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Because democracy is a political system and socialism and communism are economical systems and as the delegate doesn't know a country which is democratic can be socialist or communist.

Well, well, well;
Dear Venezuelan Delegate...
lets face it, as the delegate said above, Venezuela is not considered a Democracy and yes, a dictatorship. Most of your population is tortured to death and suffer from living in your country. Lets look up the definition of Democracy:
de·moc·ra·cy [dih-mok-ruh-see]
1. government by the people; a form of government in which the supreme power is vested in the people and exercised directly by them or by their elected agents under a free electoral system.

Would your population like to have its money invested in their country's growth or in your personal benefits? Venezuela is considered one of the most corrupt coutries, it occupies the 164th position of the 178 countries in the CPI of 2010. Now lets see the definition for dictorship:
dic·ta·tor·ship 
1. a country, government, or the form of government in which absolute power is exercised by a dictator.

The delegate deserves some time to reflect about a democracy [dih-mok-ruh-see].



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PostSubject: Re: LETS BEGIN DEBATING!   Wed Oct 27, 2010 6:37 pm

listen up delegate of el salvador, if your country didnt produce and pass the drugs over to mine, the people wouldnt be cosuming it in the first place. so the blame is yours and only yours.
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PostSubject: Re: LETS BEGIN DEBATING!   Wed Oct 27, 2010 6:43 pm

and el salvador, dont ask for money in this case, ask for men! and just so that the delgate of el salvador, it doesnt take much money to train men... ask for men and maybe they will be given, thats all. hasnt the delegate seen Tropa de Elite? those kind of men are needed... and the delegate of the us is pretty sure that those kinds of men can be found all around the world, even if your country if the delegate looks for them well.
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PostSubject: Re: LETS BEGIN DEBATING!   Wed Oct 27, 2010 8:27 pm

Delegate of USA, Would you work without receiving money? Would you work with out the appropriate equipments? NO!
We are not asking just for money! We are asking for HELP! Any kind of help! We need to decrease these numbers of murders and drugs traffcking! We need to make our country safe for our citizens!
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PostSubject: Re: LETS BEGIN DEBATING!   Wed Oct 27, 2010 9:11 pm

delegate, when you ask for men, simple hobbos without anything arent gonna be given obviously... its gonna be trained men ready to fight, paid by that country... the delegate of the us just doenst really want to give any cash money to el salvador, cause god only know where the money would actually probably end up instead of in the police for fighting against that drug trafficking...
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PostSubject: Re: LETS BEGIN DEBATING!   Wed Oct 27, 2010 9:47 pm

Listen up delegate for the last time,
We are not asking for money, we are asking for HELP. You know that our country is poor and need to improve in security, as the United States is the riches one in the whole world. we need the help of all the countries not just united states, but not in money (as it would be great to receive some) but in trained men and an overall cooperation to end this traffic.
as you know, the traffic problem is a mutual problem for our countries. We only produce because there are people to consume and as you should know one of the biggest is the unites states of America! Perhaps, we need to have a overall knowledge to find a solution for this problem involving all the countries that produce and CONSUME!
Historically the productions of drugs are made in poor countries, because trafficking know that this countries does not have sufficient money to combat and end with the traffic.
to conclude, if the rich countries (which are the highest consumers) wants to combat the traffic, they will have to offer HELP.
and to make it easier for you THIS IS WHAT WE WHANT!
so... whats your plan??
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PostSubject: Re: LETS BEGIN DEBATING!   Wed Nov 10, 2010 8:51 am

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Well, well, well;
Dear Venezuelan Delegate...
lets face it, as the delegate said above, Venezuela is not considered a Democracy and yes, a dictatorship. Most of your population is tortured to death and suffer from living in your country. Lets look up the definition of Democracy:
de·moc·ra·cy [dih-mok-ruh-see]
1. government by the people; a form of government in which the supreme power is vested in the people and exercised directly by them or by their elected agents under a free electoral system.
Would your population like to have its money invested in their country's growth or in your personal benefits? Venezuela is considered one of the most corrupt coutries, it occupies the 164th position of the 178 countries in the CPI of 2010. Now lets see the definition for dictorship:
dic·ta·tor·ship 
1. a country, government, or the form of government in which absolute power is exercised by a dictator.
The delegate deserves some time to reflect about a democracy [dih-mok-ruh-see].

Delegate of Colombia, Venezuela is a democracy and if you had television you would know that. On September 26, 2010 the people voted to elect the 165 deputies to National Assembly. Where have you seen Chavez absolute power, if he is holding elections? The power is on the hands of the people and their power is exercised by their elected agents under Venezuela´s free electoral system.
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PostSubject: Re: LETS BEGIN DEBATING!   Fri Nov 12, 2010 8:50 am

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Listen up delegate for the last time,
We are not asking for money, we are asking for HELP. You know that our country is poor and need to improve in security, as the United States is the riches one in the whole world. we need the help of all the countries not just united states, but not in money (as it would be great to receive some) but in trained men and an overall cooperation to end this traffic.
as you know, the traffic problem is a mutual problem for our countries. We only produce because there are people to consume and as you should know one of the biggest is the unites states of America! Perhaps, we need to have a overall knowledge to find a solution for this problem involving all the countries that produce and CONSUME!
Historically the productions of drugs are made in poor countries, because trafficking know that this countries does not have sufficient money to combat and end with the traffic.
to conclude, if the rich countries (which are the highest consumers) wants to combat the traffic, they will have to offer HELP.
and to make it easier for you THIS IS WHAT WE WHANT!
so... whats your plan??

Delgate,
Pointing out that currently U.S is not one of the richer countries, as of being in a economic crisis, but the idea of having men instead of money could better for the country, how would you be able to moniter corruption? Also questioning, shouldn't the country be able to control this themselves? Maybe now profits from buisness that goes to the government should go to a military?? just some opitions to consider delegate.
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PostSubject: Re: LETS BEGIN DEBATING!   Fri Nov 12, 2010 9:10 am

Delegate,
Also pointing out that El Salvador wishes for help from other states, but their topic is only trying to help thier own country, which should be protected by their military. Whatever money El Salvador is making currently should go toward the protection of their own country.
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PostSubject: Re: LETS BEGIN DEBATING!   Fri Nov 12, 2010 9:16 am

ElSalvador_Bruna wrote:
Listen up delegate for the last time,
We are not asking for money, we are asking for HELP. You know that our country is poor and need to improve in security, as the United States is the riches one in the whole world. we need the help of all the countries not just united states, but not in money (as it would be great to receive some) but in trained men and an overall cooperation to end this traffic.
as you know, the traffic problem is a mutual problem for our countries. We only produce because there are people to consume and as you should know one of the biggest is the unites states of America! Perhaps, we need to have a overall knowledge to find a solution for this problem involving all the countries that produce and CONSUME!
Historically the productions of drugs are made in poor countries, because trafficking know that this countries does not have sufficient money to combat and end with the traffic.
to conclude, if the rich countries (which are the highest consumers) wants to combat the traffic, they will have to offer HELP.
and to make it easier for you THIS IS WHAT WE WHANT!
so... whats your plan??

Delegate of El Salvador, asking for help IS asking for money. To have trained man, you surley need to have money, and this is something that El Slavodr has to see if it has. If its missing a small part, ask in yor resolution, money for the UN, and tell why you need it. But keep in mind, once againa, that help IS money!
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PostSubject: Re: LETS BEGIN DEBATING!   Sat Nov 13, 2010 10:36 am

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ElSalvador_Bruna wrote:
Listen up delegate for the last time,
We are not asking for money, we are asking for HELP. You know that our country is poor and need to improve in security, as the United States is the riches one in the whole world. we need the help of all the countries not just united states, but not in money (as it would be great to receive some) but in trained men and an overall cooperation to end this traffic.
as you know, the traffic problem is a mutual problem for our countries. We only produce because there are people to consume and as you should know one of the biggest is the unites states of America! Perhaps, we need to have a overall knowledge to find a solution for this problem involving all the countries that produce and CONSUME!
Historically the productions of drugs are made in poor countries, because trafficking know that this countries does not have sufficient money to combat and end with the traffic.
to conclude, if the rich countries (which are the highest consumers) wants to combat the traffic, they will have to offer HELP.
and to make it easier for you THIS IS WHAT WE WHANT!
so... whats your plan??

Delgate,
Pointing out that currently U.S is not one of the richer countries, as of being in a economic crisis, but the idea of having men instead of money could better for the country, how would you be able to moniter corruption? Also questioning, shouldn't the country be able to control this themselves? Maybe now profits from buisness that goes to the government should go to a military?? just some opitions to consider delegate.


Delegate of Bolivia,
The United States is for sure ONE OF the riches countries as I have said. it maybe passing through critical times, but still it has a lot of money Smile the country is not able to control this problem it self because, the problem wasn’t created JUST by the Salvadorians, but from the united states among with other countries in which tock advantage from el Salvador’s economic conditions. Delegate, El Salvador is a poor country, it main resource of work is the DRUG TRAFFICKING. el Salvador depends on the money gathered from the trafficking to sustain its own country, and is that, that we want to STOP. el Salvador need more work opportunities. people in el Salvador need more reliable jobs, that does not depend on drugs or illegal thing. el Salvador needs a drastic change.
delegate, el Salvador whishes all the best to bolivia and supports bolivia in most aspects. we with that bolivia would help el salavdor so that this alliance would even get stronger. flower
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PostSubject: Re: LETS BEGIN DEBATING!   Sat Nov 13, 2010 10:45 am

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ElSalvador_Bruna wrote:
Listen up delegate for the last time,
We are not asking for money, we are asking for HELP. You know that our country is poor and need to improve in security, as the United States is the riches one in the whole world. we need the help of all the countries not just united states, but not in money (as it would be great to receive some) but in trained men and an overall cooperation to end this traffic.
as you know, the traffic problem is a mutual problem for our countries. We only produce because there are people to consume and as you should know one of the biggest is the unites states of America! Perhaps, we need to have a overall knowledge to find a solution for this problem involving all the countries that produce and CONSUME!
Historically the productions of drugs are made in poor countries, because trafficking know that this countries does not have sufficient money to combat and end with the traffic.
to conclude, if the rich countries (which are the highest consumers) wants to combat the traffic, they will have to offer HELP.
and to make it easier for you THIS IS WHAT WE WHANT!
so... whats your plan??

Delegate of El Salvador, asking for help IS asking for money. To have trained man, you surley need to have money, and this is something that El Slavodr has to see if it has. If its missing a small part, ask in yor resolution, money for the UN, and tell why you need it. But keep in mind, once againa, that help IS money!

delegate of Panama, please re-read what i wrote because it seems like you haven’t understood most thing. Smile what el Salvador whishes is for help. any kind of help. is it on money, men, ANYTHING is welcomed. Delegate, el Salvador has no money at all! help not always is money. money would sometimes be the best solution, but money it self does not work.. with money we can change and better many things, but "receiving" troops and trained men with equipments would help too. el Salvador wishes for help delegate, is it on money or any other thing. We would like to emphasize that we would like the supppport of anyone specially panama, in which we have no restrictions against. queen
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PostSubject: Re: LETS BEGIN DEBATING!   Sat Nov 13, 2010 10:54 am

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Delegate,
Also pointing out that El Salvador wishes for help from other states, but their topic is only trying to help thier own country, which should be protected by their military. Whatever money El Salvador is making currently should go toward the protection of their own country.

delegate of bolivia,
yes, el Salvador wants help from other countries, as its resolution helps not just el Salvador but the bordering countries as GUATEMALA, HONDURAS AND NICARAGUA, AS WELL AS MEXICO AND has a great support from the UNITED STATES. el Salvador has no enemies delegate, as well as it is open minded for new ideas and for help. Delegate, el Salvador does not make much money and the money they receive is from the drug trafficking. El savdor is poor and we need help.

PLEASE READ THE RESPONSE TO PANAMAS QUESTION AND IT WILL HAVE SOME ANSWERS TO YOURS.
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PostSubject: Re: LETS BEGIN DEBATING!   Sat Nov 13, 2010 10:56 am


The problem is that drug trafficking has a huge profit, while the jobs that most of these drug dealers would get dont pay nearly as much. silent
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PostSubject: Re: LETS BEGIN DEBATING!   Sun Nov 14, 2010 9:56 am

Delgate,
calm down and yes I have noticed your post which keep repeating the same thing over and over again, yes we get it El Salvador needs help, as does every other country in Latin America delegate! And the wealthiest country currently happens to be China. We are simply making suggestions to try to help you along, but delegate you keep saying your not asking for money yet you keep on bringing up that your country has no money! As I stated before delegate your country must make some money, so use it wisely and watch for corruption.
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PostSubject: Re: LETS BEGIN DEBATING!   Sun Nov 14, 2010 10:21 am

Bolivia_Kristen wrote:
Delgate,
calm down and yes I have noticed your post which keep repeating the same thing over and over again, yes we get it El Salvador needs help, as does every other country in Latin America delegate! And the wealthiest country currently happens to be China. We are simply making suggestions to try to help you along, but delegate you keep saying your not asking for money yet you keep on bringing up that your country has no money! As I stated before delegate your country must make some money, so use it wisely and watch for corruption.

Delegate, I understand perfectly what you are seeing. I am sorry for being so rude! Smile
Delegate, what I was trying to point out is that El Salvador makes almost no money and most of the money made comes from the drug trafficking. El Salvador’s government has tried many things to stop this trafficking and tried to show our community other ways of producing money. The government has created a group called Super Man Dura in which tries exterminates this gangs. El Salvador has an epicenter of gangs in which is hard to end with them. Our government has tried many things together with the United States and Brazil as some articles states, but these measures were not enough and solutions still need to be solved. Delegate, I am stating el Salvador has a low economic status and will like help in ideas and effective measures to end this gangs and drug trafficking because with the end of this problems not only el Salvador but Nicaragua Honduras Guatemala Mexico and the united states along with other Latin American countries will have to deal with less trafficking and other problems that it produces. It kind of hard to understand all of this delegate but try to cooperate! Smile As you said "but delegate you keep saying your not asking for money" delegate most time the solution in money, other may not be. Money would help a lot, but having money and no idea to use this money correctly does not work. We need ideas first them we will find a way to get this money.
Thanks delegate for your support (I think)
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PostSubject: Re: LETS BEGIN DEBATING!   Sun Nov 14, 2010 10:36 am

Delagte,
What exactly do you mean by "exterminating"? Is your government paying for a group to kill gang members? In most countries that is known as murder delegate, no matter what they have done they are assumed innocent until proven gulity. Each person should be able to have a fair trail as declared in the human rights. Delgate instead of exterminating thousands of people maybe you should look into a more peacfull way to educate your people about the danger of gangs so your next generation won't become your worst nightmare!
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PostSubject: Re: LETS BEGIN DEBATING!   Sun Nov 14, 2010 10:45 am

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Delagte,
What exactly do you mean by "exterminating"? Is your government paying for a group to kill gang members? In most countries that is known as murder delegate, no matter what they have done they are assumed innocent until proven gulity. Each person should be able to have a fair trail as declared in the human rights. Delgate instead of exterminating thousands of people maybe you should look into a more peacfull way to educate your people about the danger of gangs so your next generation won't become your worst nightmare!

Delegate,
No, for sure no! We are not killing these gang’s members. The super man Dura was created to arrest this members and but them in jail if they committed any crime. This program was created delegate to lower the number of gang members in the streets and to low the murders and attacks they are committing. The super man Dura teaches people about drug and how they should not use them, as they also help treat the ones they are already addicted. Delegate, El Salvador has the one of the biggest homicide rate because of these gang members that is killing innocent people everyday. This rate is growing as the years pass, and for sure it needs to lower! El Salvador is a small country (AREA), with a huge density of people (huge population) and a lot of problems.

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PostSubject: Re: LETS BEGIN DEBATING!   Sun Nov 14, 2010 12:11 pm

The delegate of El Salvador has made it very clear that the program that is being proposed will attempt to decrease homicide rates. It is up to other Latin American countries to decide whether they will help El Salvador or not. The delegate of Bolivia does not understand why countries are questioning El Salvador's program and integrity, as the delegate of El Salvador has stated, more than once, how the program to reduce homicide rates will work.


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PostSubject: Re: LETS BEGIN DEBATING!   Sun Nov 14, 2010 12:22 pm

Bolivia_Maria Clara wrote:
The delegate of El Salvador has made it very clear that the program that is being proposed will attempt to decrease homicide rates. It is up to other Latin American countries to decide whether they will help El Salvador or not. The delegate of Bolivia does not understand why countries are questioning El Salvador's program and integrity, as the delegate of El Salvador has stated, more than once, how the program do reduce homicide rates will work.

Delegation of Bolivia (Clara)
El Salvador would like to thanks Bolivia for understanding and cooperating with El Salvador.
El Salvador wishesss that Bolivia to support El Salvador’s resolution and to help El Salvador Smile
Thanks bruna milcent, El Salvador’s delegate!
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PostSubject: Re: LETS BEGIN DEBATING!   Mon Nov 15, 2010 9:50 pm

ElSalvador_Bruna wrote:
delegate of Panama, please re-read what i wrote because it seems like you haven’t understood most thing. Smile what el Salvador whishes is for help. any kind of help. is it on money, men, ANYTHING is welcomed. Delegate, el Salvador has no money at all! help not always is money. money would sometimes be the best solution, but money it self does not work.. with money we can change and better many things, but "receiving" troops and trained men with equipments would help too. el Salvador wishes for help delegate, is it on money or any other thing. We would like to emphasize that we would like the supppport of anyone specially panama, in which we have no restrictions against. queen

Delegate, thanks for explaining for the delegate of Panama what you need. Panama supports your resolution, but unfortunatly, does not have how to help, because we also need help with troops to help combat the FARC's invasion in Panama. Try to be more polite and bjective next time Very Happy
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PostSubject: Re: LETS BEGIN DEBATING!   Tue Nov 16, 2010 9:10 am

Panama_RenataB wrote:
ElSalvador_Bruna wrote:
delegate of Panama, please re-read what i wrote because it seems like you haven’t understood most thing. Smile what el Salvador whishes is for help. any kind of help. is it on money, men, ANYTHING is welcomed. Delegate, el Salvador has no money at all! help not always is money. money would sometimes be the best solution, but money it self does not work.. with money we can change and better many things, but "receiving" troops and trained men with equipments would help too. el Salvador wishes for help delegate, is it on money or any other thing. We would like to emphasize that we would like the supppport of anyone specially panama, in which we have no restrictions against. queen

Delegate, thanks for explaining for the delegate of Panama what you need. Panama supports your resolution, but unfortunatly, does not have how to help, because we also need help with troops to help combat the FARC's invasion in Panama. Try to be more polite and bjective next time Very Happy

sorry delegate of panama for my words.
the delegaation of el salavdor would also like to support panama´s resolution and help if needded. el salvador understands what panama is passing and know how it is important to end with the FARQ.
thanks for everything, bruna milcent flower
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PostSubject: Re: LETS BEGIN DEBATING!   Fri Nov 19, 2010 12:24 am

Returning to the topic of the resolution submitted by the USA, the delegate would like to demonstrate satisfaction towards the acceptance of it´s resolution, which was extremely debated and after all discussion most of the delgations were able to realize the USA only seeked what was best for all and by pointing out it is also reducing it´s nuclear wepons and wishes to in the future completely cease it with the help of the START, Latin American countries realized they had no reason not to pass it, since countries that violate a treaty they have agreed to sign are not trustworthy or reliable to any nation.
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PostSubject: Re: LETS BEGIN DEBATING!   Fri Nov 19, 2010 4:27 pm

Not everyone delegate... just a reminder;)
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