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PostSubject: Dispute for Preah Vihear Temple   Mon Sep 27, 2010 9:12 pm

The delegation of Cambodia wishes to do, Cambodia and Thailand dispute for Preah Vihear Temple.
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PostSubject: Re: Dispute for Preah Vihear Temple   Mon Sep 27, 2010 9:18 pm

Hello delegates, we have found this issue very high qualified to be discussed. We the delegates of Cambodia, are having serious problems with Thailand due to the Preah Vihear Temple, which we should clearly be owning it. Thailand has decided to take measures by taking some soldiers to the temple, making the situation agravate by acusing us of taking part of there land in the Preah Vihear. Please delegate, read your opining in the following sites and help us take measures to such problem.
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PostSubject: Re: Dispute for Preah Vihear Temple   Mon Sep 27, 2010 9:20 pm

Here are two sites that has some info about the topic. The delegation of Cambodia encourages other countries to research their position so that we can start with a very interesting debate!

http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/asia-pacific/7668657.stm
http://english.peopledaily.com.cn/90001/90777/90851/7090240.html
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PostSubject: Re: Dispute for Preah Vihear Temple   Mon Sep 27, 2010 9:23 pm

My partneeer has shown two sites, and I would like to add another one. CNN article, please read and give your positions.

http://articles.cnn.com/2008-07-17/world/cambodia.thailand_1_thai-territory-thai-soldier-preah-vihear-temple?_s=PM:WORLD
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PostSubject: Re: Dispute for Preah Vihear Temple   Mon Sep 27, 2010 9:43 pm

Dear delegates,

The delegation of China would like to know what actions the Cambodian delegates are planning to take
towards this issue, since stating an issue without a possible action towards it is sort of irrelevant. The delegation
of China sincerely hopes that a righteous solution is found for this conflict. The delegation of China would also
like to state that there is not a clear righteous owner for such property or data of an original occupier, and that
we don't agree that declaring it property of only one country as its sovereign ruler is a reasonable idea.

Best of lucks,
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PostSubject: Re: Dispute for Preah Vihear Temple   Tue Sep 28, 2010 10:51 am

Delegate of China, any and every situation that occurs in Asia is not irrelevant, hence, the delegate strongly suggests that you inform yourself before coming to our topic and criticizing it. The dispute between Thailand and Cambodia, has been agravating since rockets and gunfire was released, killing two cambodian soldiers. Keep in mind that this territory belongs to Cambodia and we are researching to find a peaceful and just solution.
Good luck,
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PostSubject: Re: Dispute for Preah Vihear Temple   Tue Sep 28, 2010 10:57 am

Delegate of China, please take in consideration everything my fellow partner said. According to Cia factbook, the Preah Vihear temple belongs to Cambodia territory and Thailand is trying to possess it. The delegates will research more about this issue to formulate a fair and peaceful solution.
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PostSubject: Re: Dispute for Preah Vihear Temple   Tue Sep 28, 2010 11:43 am

Delegate of China from the Asian Caucus, becareful not to expose your personal opinion through China's beliefs and opinion. Every issue, no matter how small it might be, is significant for it cause instability! And unless you have an especific quotation of any Chinese officers that states this issue as irrelevant, the Security Council Chinese Delegate suggest the Asian one to not share it here. This is issue is taking in account in the MUN because it has to be solved, so instead of judging other delegations, you should share Chinas solutions toward this issue and perhaps help the Cambodian delegation in making one of their own. Becareful not to make China something that it is not! China isn't apart of the UN to judge, but to find solutions.

I'm sure the delegation of Cambodia can clarify any point you, as a person, may have! So ask them first, research and express CHINA'S opinion!
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PostSubject: Re: Dispute for Preah Vihear Temple   Tue Sep 28, 2010 6:36 pm

Cambodia_ManoelaB wrote:
Delegate of China, any and every situation that occurs in Asia is not irrelevant, hence, the delegate strongly suggests that you inform yourself before coming to our topic and criticizing it. The dispute between Thailand and Cambodia, has been agravating since rockets and gunfire was released, killing two cambodian soldiers. Keep in mind that this territory belongs to Cambodia and we are researching to find a peaceful and just solution.
Good luck,
delegates of Cambodia.
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Dear delegates,

Sorry if you misunderstood me, but what I mean is that stating an issue without a solution isn't quite smart.
We, as citizens in the world, can't just point out a difficulty without at least posting a possible solution in
our minds. Delegare of China from the United Nations, if you misunderstood me too, I'm sorry but that
is not what the delegate meant. The delegate of China isn't saying this topic is irrelevant, it is just stating
that he would appreciate to have at least a solution which we could agree or disagree on to debate. If you
didn't understand what I said, now I hope my dear delegates do.

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PostSubject: Re: Dispute for Preah Vihear Temple   Tue Sep 28, 2010 7:21 pm




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PostSubject: Re: Dispute for Preah Vihear Temple   Tue Sep 28, 2010 7:47 pm

China_Vanessa wrote:
Find a solution is something the UN does as a whole. The Cambodian delegation will purpose a solution, but it is of our great interest to be active in this disscussion. Its also important to support opinion with facts and not to make empty reply just for the sake of one more post.

Delegate, we represent the same delegation, why distort my words into a meaning of your own?
This wasn't an empty response for "one more post," the delegate of China just wanted to know what
solution Cambodia would PROPOSE, not find, and as you can see, propose in the dictionary means suggest.
The delegate of China in the Asian Caucus knows what the UN is about, he doesn't need someone acting
superior trying to lecture him, but thank you for your effort. Anyways, information was posted in my post, and
therefore making it not irrelevant. Now, lets just end this discussion in a mature way, since my point has been proven.
We are partners in this, my dear delegate, and trying to stir up hostile situations with your partner isn't appropriate at least
in my opinion. Let's try not to misinterpret each other again, ok?


Now, delegates, coming back to the Preah Vihear Temple discussion...

Recently, the Cambodian Prime Minister has called upon the UN on help dividing the borders in such area,
and the PM of Thailand Abhisit Vejjajiva responded by stating that Thailand would be trying to figure out
peaceful approaches, but this same man also previously stated that the government would push out
Cambodian communities that have established in the 4.6 square-kilometre disputed area around the
temple. This same man also threatened to use military support to strike Cambodian areas in the
Preah Vihear Temple. But delegates, to have a good point, we have to look at other points of views, such
as Thailand's. What does Thailand think about this conflict, and what is leading them to cause this violence?
Maybe Thailand believes that this area belongs to them, since there are no concrete proofs of who was there
first, claiming it their righteous territory. Of course Thailand feels bad, since they have the same right as Cambodia
over the Preah Vihear Temple. Also, people from Thailand, even government officials, don't agree with their Prime Minister.
They don't want violence, they just want justice, and it isn't fair for Cambodia to have the right over the majority of this area.

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PostSubject: Re: Dispute for Preah Vihear Temple   Thu Sep 30, 2010 8:18 am

Delegate, the temple is a part of the Cambodian territory. In 1962, the International Court of Justice awarded the land to Cambodia and later on the UNESCO recognized it as ours. Of course the delegate wants to find a peaceful solution that will benefit both sides. The only thing that is not fair is the violence that Thailand is using to take something that representing Cambodia´s culture. Cambodia just wants to protect its sovereignty and urge Thailand to stop the gunfire that is killing civilians. Please delegate, you should see our side too.
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PostSubject: Re: Dispute for Preah Vihear Temple   Wed Oct 13, 2010 10:38 pm

The delegate of India strongly supports this resolution, since the two countries involved in the dispute, Cambodia and Thailand, have been experiencing preoccupant situations due to the conflict. However, the delegate would like to pronnounce India as supporter of Cambodia, since Thailand commited severe injustice towards the country, having its population suffer a series of attacks which have led to innumerous losses of innocent lives, mainly during the Cambodian Civil War taking place in the 1970s, although the court proceedings focused not on questions of cultural heritage or on which state was the successor to the Khmer Empire, but rather on Thailand's long-time acceptance of the 1907 map, which indicated Cambodia as the owner of the reffered land. The maps delimitating the Preah Vihear Temple as part of the Cambodian territory were communicated to the Siamese members of the Mixed Commission in 1907, and since they didn't reply to say that the map wasn't drawn correctly due to the reason it didn't include Thailand on its origins, then it was understood that the Siamese authorities accepted the Annex I map without investigation. This means they could not now plead any error vitiating the reality of their consent. Therefore, Cambodia has the right to claim the Preah Vihear Temple as theirs.
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PostSubject: Re: Dispute for Preah Vihear Temple   Tue Nov 09, 2010 6:46 pm

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The delegate of India strongly supports this resolution, since the two countries involved in the dispute, Cambodia and Thailand, have been experiencing preoccupant situations due to the conflict. However, the delegate would like to pronnounce India as supporter of Cambodia, since Thailand commited severe injustice towards the country, having its population suffer a series of attacks which have led to innumerous losses of innocent lives, mainly during the Cambodian Civil War taking place in the 1970s, although the court proceedings focused not on questions of cultural heritage or on which state was the successor to the Khmer Empire, but rather on Thailand's long-time acceptance of the 1907 map, which indicated Cambodia as the owner of the reffered land. The maps delimitating the Preah Vihear Temple as part of the Cambodian territory were communicated to the Siamese members of the Mixed Commission in 1907, and since they didn't reply to say that the map wasn't drawn correctly due to the reason it didn't include Thailand on its origins, then it was understood that the Siamese authorities accepted the Annex I map without investigation. This means they could not now plead any error vitiating the reality of their consent. Therefore, Cambodia has the right to claim the Preah Vihear Temple as theirs.


Delegation of India, Cambodia would like to thank India for showing strong support towards a serious issue. India seems to understand that Thailand is refusing to accept that UNESCO has granted this territory to Cambodia. Thailand is acting completely unpeacefully and instead of agreeing on peaceful talks, it is taking soldiers to the boarders of the land which has been causing damage because of gunfire fights which killed two cambodian soldiers. Thailand is also violating the rules by not checking the visas when taking tourists towards the area. Yes, Cambodia has the right to claim for a temple that has been for years involved in its culture.
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PostSubject: Re: Dispute for Preah Vihear Temple   Fri Nov 12, 2010 2:05 pm

Delegates, keep in mind that the International Court of Justice already demanded for the withdrawal of Thailand troops surrounding the border. They also agreed that every sculpture taken by the Thailand authorities are supposed to be returned to Cambodia. Why are they not obeying with the ICJ? Delegates, it was already proven that the Preah Vihear belongs to Cambodia, but all we ask is for Thailand to remove their troops and let Cambodia keep what is righteous theirs.
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PostSubject: Re: Dispute for Preah Vihear Temple   Fri Nov 12, 2010 2:11 pm

The delegate of the Phillippines would like to state its position in favor of the Combodia's resolution regarding the dispute for the Preah Viher Temple. The delagate strongly suggests Cambodia to come up with a peaceful way to not only take off your troops, but also Thailand's troops to avoid gunfire, preventing violence and deaths. Not only the Preah Vihear sits atop a cliff on the Cambodian soil, but the International Court of Justice already awarded the temple to Cambodia in 1962, therefore they have strong and convincing arguments to strengthen their defense. Keaping in mind that the temple was build by Cambodian citizens. We, as delegates of the Asian Caucus, should support Cambodia's proposals to end up this conflict peacefully.
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PostSubject: Re: Dispute for Preah Vihear Temple   Fri Nov 12, 2010 2:16 pm

Philippines_Mariap wrote:
The delegate of the Phillippines would like to state its position in favor of the Combodia's resolution regarding the dispute for the Preah Viher Temple. The delagate strongly suggests Cambodia to come up with a peaceful way to not only take off your troops, but also Thailand's troops to avoid gunfire, preventing violence and deaths. Not only the Preah Vihear sits atop a cliff on the Cambodian soil, but the International Court of Justice already awarded the temple to Cambodia in 1962, therefore they have strong and convincing arguments to strengthen their defense. Keaping in mind that the temple was build by Cambodian citizens. We, as delegates of the Asian Caucus, should support Cambodia's proposals to end up this conflict peacefully.

Delegate, as the Cambodia stated earlier, Thailand was also supposed to take their troops from the border, but if they are not wishing to accomplish, more severe measures will be needed. The delegation thanks your support and wishes to have a fruitful and agreeable debate in this MUN.
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PostSubject: Re: Dispute for Preah Vihear Temple   Fri Nov 12, 2010 2:28 pm

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Recently, the Cambodian Prime Minister has called upon the UN on help dividing the borders in such area,
and the PM of Thailand Abhisit Vejjajiva responded by stating that Thailand would be trying to figure out
peaceful approaches, but this same man also previously stated that the government would push out
Cambodian communities that have established in the 4.6 square-kilometre disputed area around the
temple. This same man also threatened to use military support to strike Cambodian areas in the
Preah Vihear Temple. But delegates, to have a good point, we have to look at other points of views, such
as Thailand's. What does Thailand think about this conflict, and what is leading them to cause this violence?
Maybe Thailand believes that this area belongs to them, since there are no concrete proofs of who was there
first, claiming it their righteous territory. Of course Thailand feels bad, since they have the same right as Cambodia
over the Preah Vihear Temple. Also, people from Thailand, even government officials, don't agree with their Prime Minister.
They don't want violence, they just want justice, and it isn't fair for Cambodia to have the right over the majority of this area.

Delegate of China,
The Cambodian delegation has already tried to view the Thailand side of the problem, but it is very irrelevant since The UNESCO already granted the area to Cambodia. It has cultural significance to all Cambodia's citizens, therefore Thailand should respect. Thailand is fighting for something that has already been awarded to Cambodia. If they don't want violence delegate of China, why did they send troops to Cambodia's border and killed two soldiers because of gunfire fights? Sorry delegate, but China is trying to view an injustice side which doesn't really exist.

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PostSubject: Re: Dispute for Preah Vihear Temple   Fri Nov 12, 2010 2:33 pm

Delegates keep in mind that Thailand is messing with Cambodia’s sovereignty since the ICJ and the UNESCO already granted the temple to Cambodia. What the delegation really wants is to stop the gunfire because it is harming the Cambodia people. As it was stated two of them were killed because of this. Cambodia urges all nations to vote in favor of our resolution so that this issue can be put to an end once and for all.

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PostSubject: Re: Dispute for Preah Vihear Temple   Fri Nov 12, 2010 6:49 pm

Above all China respect the UN, its Charter and the everything financed by it. UNESO and the ICJ awarded Cambodia with the Preah Vihear Temple, and we, the Member States, have to respect that. China is very sensible towards this issue, since the Preah Vihear Temple is recognized by the UN as Cambodina territory just as Taiwan and Tibet are recognized by the UN as China's territory.

China hopes that the member of the Asian Caucus come to realize that this same debate argued here, was the same debated argued by UNESCO and the ICJ. And they made their decision, now its our responsibility to respect it.
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PostSubject: Re: Dispute for Preah Vihear Temple   Mon Nov 15, 2010 12:37 pm

ChinaSC_Vanessa wrote:
Above all China respect the UN, its Charter and the everything financed by it. UNESO and the ICJ awarded Cambodia with the Preah Vihear Temple, and we, the Member States, have to respect that. China is very sensible towards this issue, since the Preah Vihear Temple is recognized by the UN as Cambodina territory just as Taiwan and Tibet are recognized by the UN as China's territory.

China hopes that the member of the Asian Caucus come to realize that this same debate argued here, was the same debated argued by UNESCO and the ICJ. And they made their decision, now its our responsibility to respect it.

Delegates, in addition to what was pointed out by the delegate of China previously, India would strongly like to refer to the fact that after the ICJ ruled that the sacred temple stood under the sovereignty of Cambodia in 1962 and the Cabinet of the time made a resolution and announced that Thailand, as a member of the United Nations, accepted the ICJ ruling, it occured that although Thailand protested and of the Court within 10 years after the date of the ruling, Thailand has never officially made any application for such a revision, nor mareserved the right to request a revision of the ruling as allowed by Article 61 of the Statutede any request for the Court to clarify the meaning or scope of the judgment, as allowed indefinitely under Article 60. Threfore, delegates, how can Thailand today will to claim the Preah Vihear as part of their territory if no legal application for the revision of the ICJ was ever made? The situation can be best defined as critical.

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PostSubject: Re: Dispute for Preah Vihear Temple   Mon Nov 15, 2010 10:16 pm

The delegate of India strongly supports what was stated before by its partner, delegate pf India, as well, since we all know that Thailand was a UN member in 1962 when the Preah Vihear Temple was awarded to Cambodia. Delegates, if Thailand didnt legally complain ten years after the ICJ rule, it is out of order that Thailand know request Preah Vihear as part of its territory.
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PostSubject: Re: Dispute for Preah Vihear Temple   Thu Nov 18, 2010 10:48 pm

Firstly, the delegate of India would like to congratulate the delegation of Cambodia for the targetting remarks presented during the debate, which accurately and reasonably supported the resolution. India is confident that the Asian Caucus voted correctly and meaningfully, for with the enforcement of the resolution within the territorial dispute, harmful conflicts that futurely lead to unfortunate deaths of innocent civilians, will be prevented and even resolutely abolished. Congratulations Cambodia! India also thanks for the approval of its purposed resolution.

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