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PostSubject: Reuniting the Koreas   Sun Sep 26, 2010 10:37 pm

Fellow delegates,
I'm here to propose a definitive solution to the on going conflict in Korea. Let us reunite North and South Korea into one government, one state under the leadership of government officials of North Korea.
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PostSubject: Re: Reuniting the Koreas   Mon Sep 27, 2010 7:04 pm

The Iranian delegate is here just to EXPLAIN a simple war that ensured in the past that changed the Koreas and determined in what they are today.
In 1950, the Korean War started, it was a military conflict in between Republic of Korea, popularly known as South Korea and the Democratic People’s Republic of Korea, popularly known as North Korea, and China. The result of this war was an armistice, which determined the political division of the Koreas, on 27 of July 1953. The American administrators divided the peninsula along the 38th Parallel with the USA troops occupying the south region and the Soviet Union occupying the north region.
With influence of the Unites States the south holds free elections and influenced by the Soviet Union the north established a Communist government. The 38th parallel continued to be an area of tension and with the reunification negotiations it only increased this tension, the battles in the borders persisted.
Delegate, honestly it is impossible to have this reunification. The years passed and more things made the countries seem that they were always separate and never only one.
PS: A good idea for a resolution is about your nuclear program or something related to the NPT, since bringing back together the Koreas in IMPOSSIBLE!
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PostSubject: Re: Reuniting the Koreas   Mon Sep 27, 2010 8:13 pm

ICC Iran_Alana wrote:
The Iranian delegate is here just to EXPLAIN a simple war that ensured in the past that changed the Koreas and determined in what they are today.
In 1950, the Korean War started, it was a military conflict in between Republic of Korea, popularly known as South Korea and the Democratic People’s Republic of Korea, popularly known as North Korea, and China. The result of this war was an armistice, which determined the political division of the Koreas, on 27 of July 1953. The American administrators divided the peninsula along the 38th Parallel with the USA troops occupying the south region and the Soviet Union occupying the north region.
With influence of the Unites States the south holds free elections and influenced by the Soviet Union the north established a Communist government. The 38th parallel continued to be an area of tension and with the reunification negotiations it only increased this tension, the battles in the borders persisted.
Delegate, honestly it is impossible to have this reunification. The years passed and more things made the countries seem that they were always separate and never only one.
PS: A good idea for a resolution is about your nuclear program or something related to the NPT, since bringing back together the Koreas in IMPOSSIBLE!

Dear delegate,

Don't state things that you are not sure of. Bringing back together both Koreas is possible,
but it will certainly take effort. The costs are one factor, but explained in this article:

http://www.forbes.com/2010/03/15/north-south-korea-asia-reunite-opinions-contributors-charles-wolf-jr.html

It is possible, dear delegate, to join both of these countries, but it isn't recommended.
Both of these countries live in hostile situations, and they look with hate at each other.
Due to North Korea's military power, if these countries got brought back together, what would
probably happen is a Korea dominated 95% by North Korea. Revolutions would probably
happen and people would be suffering. The delegate of China recommends a peace treaty signed by
both countries as a start, and then in a far much later future, an unification of both these countries would
become plausible.

With heart,
The Delegate of China.
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PostSubject: Re: Reuniting the Koreas   Mon Sep 27, 2010 8:39 pm

Delegate, how it is possible to unite two nations that have completely different principles? Of course is not recommended, because it isn't possible to live in a nation in which the government won't be in peace because the way of ruling the nation is the opposites. Delegates, just think, use you’re thinking heads... North Korea DOESN’T want to unification there selves, so why will the North Korean delegate propose that? It is unreasonable; please stick to your countries position. The only thing that North Korea wants form South Korea is that it permits the bilateral talks with the USA and even though South Korea is willing to give several changes in place of the nuclear program, North Korea continues not to agree. so why would a nation that cant agree in benefiting it self from closing the nuclear facilities, or to remove the MILLIONS OF SOLDIERS in the DMZ border or to just let the families that were separated during the division get together in one of the side?
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PostSubject: Re: Reuniting the Koreas   Mon Sep 27, 2010 9:13 pm

ICC Iran_Alana wrote:
Delegate, how it is possible to unite two nations that have completely different principles? Of course is not recommended, because it isn't possible to live in a nation in which the government won't be in peace because the way of ruling the nation is the opposites. Delegates, just think, use you’re thinking heads... North Korea DOESN’T want to unification there selves, so why will the North Korean delegate propose that? It is unreasonable; please stick to your countries position. The only thing that North Korea wants form South Korea is that it permits the bilateral talks with the USA and even though South Korea is willing to give several changes in place of the nuclear program, North Korea continues not to agree. so why would a nation that cant agree in benefiting it self from closing the nuclear facilities, or to remove the MILLIONS OF SOLDIERS in the DMZ border or to just let the families that were separated during the division get together in one of the side?

Dear delegate,

First let me point out that impossible means something with 0% chance of happening, so let's make it clear that the delegate of China just
stated that how it is, it IS possible, even with a 0.01% chance of happening, that these two countries unite, but it isn't recommended. The
delegate of China agrees that it is not recommended, but just didn't agree with that one specific thing. The delegate of China backs up the
delegation of Iran and would like to restate that South Korea and North Korea currently shouldn't unite, since to take a leap,
an impulse is first needed.

With heart,
The Delegate of China
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PostSubject: Re: Reuniting the Koreas   Mon Sep 27, 2010 9:21 pm

Unfortunately, the 4 kilometer DMZ(demilitarized) zone in the proximity of Jingdong, South Korea has begun to see violence once more, making this proposed union process difficult. The zone had remained peaceful since 1953(end of Korean War) but North Korean officials have begun installing automatic unmanned guard towers equipped with turrets. This puts the life of about 20,000 South Koreans at risk delegates! Check it out.

http://www.nytimes.com/2010/06/05/world/asia/05iht-border.html
https://www.strategypage.com/htmw/htweap/articles/20100716.aspx
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PostSubject: Re: Reuniting the Koreas   Tue Sep 28, 2010 2:20 pm

Dear Iran delegate,

We as chairs have discussed this, and we will allow the topic, for the delegate stated, that
North Korea, would not want this to happen, but on the contrary, the North Korean delegation
would love to have power over Korea as a whole again, although this will be a hard and well
discussed(I hope) topic, it will be allowed...

Thank You Delegates.
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PostSubject: Re: Reuniting the Koreas   Tue Sep 28, 2010 10:54 pm

The Democratic People's Republic of Korea wishes to point out to the Iranian delegate that the war of Reunification had been won, easily, by our Democratic Republic of Korea, until the USA intervened with General Douglas MacArthur and invaded the Korean Peninsula. Our Democratic country was only saved by the timely intervention of China, who invaded the peninsula after American troops crossed the Yalu rivers, meaning into the People's Republic of China itself. This war was fought to a stalemate at the 46th parallel. We wish to emphasize that this imposed separation of the Korean people into two countries is inherently immoral and unethical.
To the delegate of Iran: Koreans are Koreans, they have one culture and one set of underlying values. You make statements with no understanding of what it means to be Korean. Underneath it all, both the Democratic People's Republic of Korea and the Republic of Korea want to unify the Korean People, the details must be hammered out among the Korean People themselves.
To the delegate of China: lamentably, the Chinese delegate also does not understand the deep set urge of Koreans to unify their people.
To the Russian Delegate: the war of Reunification in 1953 had been successfully resolved, but the American capitalist cowboys invaded the Korean Peninsula and even crossed the Yalu rivers into China, which provoked the Chinese into a just response, in which they threshed the Americans. In the end, an cease-fire was declared, but the war never was formally terminated. That means that we are still at war. It has never ended. It is said that war is the last recourse of diplomacy.
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PostSubject: Re: Reuniting the Koreas   Thu Sep 30, 2010 8:11 am

North Korea's GDP: US$27.8 Billion / PPP $1,900
Sout Korea's GDP: US$832.5 Billion / PPP $28,100

Numbers speak for themselves.


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PostSubject: Re: Reuniting the Koreas   Thu Sep 30, 2010 8:12 am

Delegate of North Korea, as you stated in your first post, your nation's proposal is to reunite the Koreas under North Korean government officials. Therefore, basically what the delegate wants is to create an aristocracy, or to quote to quote "dominate" South Korea. It is clear that a resolution with these principles is certainly not going to pass. It is more than obvious that South Korea will not agree with this proposal in the resolution and therefore there will not be a consensus of peace between the two nations in order for them to join as one. As a recommendation from a fellow delegate on the caucus, the delegate of North Korea should reformulate his question of, unless we as a caucus really want to discuss a useless resolution which obviously will not pass.
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PostSubject: Re: Reuniting the Koreas   Thu Sep 30, 2010 5:21 pm

Japan_Rodrigo wrote:
Delegate of North Korea, as you stated in your first post, your nation's proposal is to reunite the Koreas under North Korean government officials. Therefore, basically what the delegate wants is to create an aristocracy, or to quote to quote "dominate" South Korea. It is clear that a resolution with these principles is certainly not going to pass. It is more than obvious that South Korea will not agree with this proposal in the resolution and therefore there will not be a consensus of peace between the two nations in order for them to join as one. As a recommendation from a fellow delegate on the caucus, the delegate of North Korea should reformulate his question of, unless we as a caucus really want to discuss a useless resolution which obviously will not pass.

Well put delegate.

A sugestion for the North Korean delegate is to try to give South Korea a reason for both of you to be united, because as placed by the others delegates, it will be astonishing if this resolution were to pass, due to the fact that there has been no sign of peace lately. With no peace, how could one expect for both to unite?
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PostSubject: Re: Reuniting the Koreas   Thu Sep 30, 2010 5:56 pm

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Well put delegate.

A sugestion for the North Korean delegate is to try to give South Korea a reason for both of you to be united, because as placed by the others delegates, it will be astonishing if this resolution were to pass, due to the fact that there has been no sign of peace lately. With no peace, how could one expect for both to unite?

Dear delegate,

Well said, and the delegation of China agrees that North Korea and South Korea are not yet
prepared to unite. They currently face constant civilian conflicts between them and a great difference
in their everyday culture and life. If they became one, Kim Jong II would probably assume power of both
of these nations due to North Korea's vast military influence. Frequent revolts would come from part of the
ex-South Korea citizens who are not happy with such changes, and the military would probably take care the way
they sometimes do in North Korea, with aggression, since desrespecting their leader is one HUGE offense.
As soon as North Korea and South Korea start doing peace arrangements, live for a long time as allies and try to
control their conflicts, then they will be prepared for such bond.

With heart,
The Delegation of China
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PostSubject: Re: Reuniting the Koreas   Thu Sep 30, 2010 8:23 pm

To the delegate of China: you repeat the disinformation spread throughout the media in a gigantic campaign that has been waged by the US for many years against the DPR of Korea. All lies. Of course reunification should proceed through intense conversations, which may last as long as necessary.
To the delegates of Japan: Please examine closely the numbers for the country of Cuba, which has been waged by the capitalist US for many years, out of sheer spite and pettiness. For these same reasons, the vengeful Americans have tried to crush the DPR of Korea for years. It has been a heroic struggle to resist this pressure, a sign of the solidarity, stolidity, courage, and resourcefulness of the Korean People.
To the German delegate: Lamentably, you are probably an ingenuous and well-intentioned victim of the massive and vicious campaign of misinformation and disinformation( lies, posing as unshakable truths) which has been waged unremittingly and remorselessly by that nest of capitalist pirates, the USA. As your Minister Goebbels so aptly stated (paraphrase), "lies, repeated a thousand times, metamorphose into truth."
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PostSubject: Re: Reuniting the Koreas   Thu Sep 30, 2010 8:32 pm

North Korea_Tiago wrote:
To the delegate of China: you repeat the disinformation spread throughout the media in a gigantic campaign that has been waged by the US for many years against the DPR of Korea. All lies. Of course reunification should proceed through intense conversations, which may last as long as necessary.

Dear delegate,

The delegate of China respects how the delegate seeks to reunite both countries after intense
conversations, but what if after these intense conversations, no reasonable consensus is figured
out and South Korea denies the unification? This resolution would be wasted, so wouldn't it be
better to initiate peace talks, and with the years, as soon as South Korea agrees with it, submit
this resolution?

With Heart,
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PostSubject: Re: Reuniting the Koreas   Thu Sep 30, 2010 8:45 pm

Delegate of China: our patience will last for generations.
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PostSubject: Re: Reuniting the Koreas   Fri Oct 01, 2010 7:29 pm

By the way I suggest the delegate to take a better look on nowadays facts because,
in August 17, 2010, North Korea REJECTED a unification that was suggested by South Korea.
Please explain how would North Korea reject a reunification, but then, wish to reunify both countries?
NORTH KOREA'S government stated that a reunification process was "sheer nonsense" due to the ongoing tensions in the Korean peninsula.

If you look for sources here is the one.


http://www.ctv.ca/CTVNews/World/20100817/koreas-tension-100817/
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PostSubject: Re: Reuniting the Koreas   Wed Oct 06, 2010 10:12 pm

Dear delegate of North Korea;
To reunite North and South Korea both should have benefit from it, or at least not lose anything.
Both have to share the same values and same intrests, reuniting county's that have nothing to agree on is going to be very difficult and may even after hours,days of negotiating not be achieved.
As the delegate of Germany point out, North Korea has already rejected the reuniting with the South once this year, what makes you think that this time the outcome is going to be different? Why would you,North Korea, all the sudden, dicide to reunite anyways?
Wishing you good luck,
The delegate of the Philippines.
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PostSubject: Re: Reuniting the Koreas   Wed Oct 06, 2010 10:52 pm

Delegate of NK,

As it was stated by Japan's delegation, the differences between North Korea's GDP and South Korea's are too different and an unification under NK government would not be accepted by SK, and recently NK stateted that an unification would have no sense right now... So please delegate, if plan to go on with this resolution, make it plausible. As a suggestion if you really want this topic, try to make a new government based on a new constitution, but no country being subjected by the other.
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PostSubject: Re: Reuniting the Koreas   Thu Oct 07, 2010 9:07 am

Delegates,
Cambodia would like to show its position towards this issue. Cambodian's delegates totally agree to what China has stated; "Both of these countries live in hostile situations, and they look with hate at each other.Due to North Korea's military power, if these countries got brought back together, what would probably happen is a Korea dominated 95% by North Korea, " reuniting this country would agravate the situation, because it is not healthy to both countries to unite themselves if it will bring the citizens to be in total risk.
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PostSubject: Re: Reuniting the Koreas   Thu Oct 07, 2010 1:18 pm

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Delegate of NK,

As it was stated by Japan's delegation, the differences between North Korea's GDP and South Korea's are too different and an unification under NK government would not be accepted by SK, and recently NK stateted that an unification would have no sense right now... So please delegate, if plan to go on with this resolution, make it plausible. As a suggestion if you really want this topic, try to make a new government based on a new constitution, but no country being subjected by the other.

Dear delegates,

As the delegate of Israel has stated, this isn't a plausible topic for today's world.
Coming up with an unification out of all these conflicts that are happening today
between both Koreas isn't a good idea. Each of these countries have their own
specific kind of government, and each citizen is already adapted to each one of
these governments, therefore, if this passes, it wouldn't be helpful to the general
people that live at Korea.

With heart,

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PostSubject: Re: Reuniting the Koreas   Fri Oct 08, 2010 4:14 pm

Also delegates, I don't know if anyone come up with this, but even if there was a possible reunification between the Koreas, it would certanly have many cases of prejudice against groups from NK and SK, the people would not interact and civil wars could come up! so, Israel doens't agree with the idea of the reunification of the Koreas, because it would provoke many conflicts!


Maybe in a further future we can see both nations together as only one nation, but right now, this is unfeasible
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PostSubject: Re: Reuniting the Koreas   Sat Oct 09, 2010 6:21 pm

First Cambodia would like to state it is not against any country in the Korean War

Reuniting the Korea is possible as the Delegate of China stated, but its risky. What would be beneficial in reuniting the Koreas? Absolutely nothing. Truth is the tension in the Korean War brought the two Koreas to opt for some unnecessary and extremely dangerous approach. For example, the Democratic People's Republic of Korea posses Nuclear Weapons while the Republic of Korea doesn't. DPRK is anti-imperialism while South Korea tend to bend to the other side. And the list goes on....

Once the Koreas were one, but they broke apart for reason that exist till today and even got worse. If we choose to reunite the Koreas we will be bringing back the beginning of the Korean War all over again, and for that reason we will be giving steps backwards.

Let's put it this way, reuniting the Koreas would be like uniting the USA and the Soviet Union doing the Cold War. (Reminding that the Republic of Korea was occupied by american troops, and DPRK by Soviets.)
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PostSubject: Korea united   Wed Oct 13, 2010 6:53 pm

Russia is supporting the reunification of the Korea because we believe that that a reunification will bring the end of many internal disputes in the Korea's and bring the world a one step closer to peace as long as the reunification is than properly it should be a smooth transition that will make life easier for the Korean people and will probably not end up in another Korean war.
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PostSubject: Reunification of the Koreas   Wed Oct 13, 2010 11:15 pm

Fellow delegates,

The delegate of India would like to pronnounce itself as against this resolution. This is due to the reason that the delegate recognizes that although it is not impossible, as the delegate of Iran has previously mentioned, it is extremely hard for a pacific reunification to take place. Instead, under the conditions the Koreas live in today, a possible future Civil War might be generated, creating a series of life losses as harsh consequence. However, an opinion for a better and more reasonable resolution, since as the delegate of Germany stated, North Korea denied the reunification, requested by South Korea, would be creating, first of all, an unique system of government based in only one constitution for both Koreas. This would be the start for a future reunification, since one of the biggest, if not the main complication within the two nations is the fact the North Korea is curretly under an anti-imperialism dictatorship influenced by the Soviet Union, while imperialist South Korea is currently under American support. In addition, such as it was pointed out by the delegation of Japan, numbers speak for themselves. South Korea's GDP is impressively higher that North Korea's. This makes the delagate question the point brought up by the delegate of Cambodia, who stated that reuniting the Koreas would not be beneficial. Delegate, think for a minute. Wouldn't the delegate believe that there are two sides of this conflict? If you look at North Korea's point of view, you would identify the reunification, for this aspect, positive, since the GDP of its population would supposely increase. Meanwhile, if positioning yourself at South Korean point of view, reunification wouldn't be useful, for South Korean economy is currently experiencing much better conditions than NK's.

Good luck for all delegates involved in this conflict!
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PostSubject: Re: Reuniting the Koreas   Fri Oct 15, 2010 6:05 pm

Russia_Muhammad wrote:
Russia is supporting the reunification of the Korea because we believe that that a reunification will bring the end of many internal disputes in the Korea's and bring the world a one step closer to peace as long as the reunification is than properly it should be a smooth transition that will make life easier for the Korean people and will probably not end up in another Korean war.

I'm going to use another example to express Germany's point of view. Suppose we were to unite
Pakistan and India, which are in a similar conflict, what would the delegate expect to occur?
Throwing a person, that has never swam, in the water and telling her to swim will not make her
swim *metaphor*!
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